Archive for October, 2009

Contemporary Arts Show Podcasts

I have put up podcasts from the first three shows of the Contemporary Arts Show on Podomatic.

The first, orginally broadcast on 03/05/09, includes an interview with the artist Matt Robinson about his exhibition at the Phoenix Gallery for Brighton’s Fringe Festival 2009

The second contains a live performance from a Safehouse Collective Ensemble, compromising, Gus Garside, Annie Kerr and Dave Allen

The Third has an interview with academic Dr Katy Shaw, senior lecturer in literature at Brighton University on David Peace, author of GB84, Red Riding Quartet, Damned United and Tokyo Year Zero

I would like top thank all the guests for their sheer brilliance. I would also like to apologise to all listeners for my nerves. In later shows I learnt to write a script!… However again the guests are superb and that’s what the show’s about.

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Message forwarded from a Postal Worker

> Sent: 18 October 2009 17:44
>
> Subject: Why we are going on strike
>
> We think it’s fair to say that you our customers are not interested in why we
> are once again striking.It is also fair to say that some of the problems we are
> going through does not affect you either.
>
> What you are interested in is you getting your mail and whatever mail you send
> getting there within the allotted time depending on what service was paid for.
>
> But we do think that it is fair to inform you of part of the reason as to why
> we are striking as it affects you in a big way.
>
> But before we go on let’s get one thing out 1st,it’s not about a pay rise,far
> from it,a pay rise if we are to be truthful is in the mix but is not as a high
> priority as other concerns we have.
>
> Please just take a minute to see what we have to say.
>
>
> What’s affecting you then?
>
> In 2007 we signed an agreement with Royal Mail called the Pay & Modernisation
> deal,in that deal there are, amongst other things, a new working practice
> called ‘absorption’.
>
> This is one of YOUR biggest problems,whether you are a domestic or business
> customer!
>
> Before the deal any postal workers rounds that weren’t covered due to staff
> sickness,holidays,or general shortage would be covered by other postal workers
> on overtime.
>
> There would be no shortage of posties willing to do this,so there was never a
> major problem getting the mail delivered.
>
> But now we have ‘absorption’,what this now means is that any rounds now that
> does not have a postal worker allocated to it is now absorbed by the rest of
> the postal workers in the office.
>
> With Royal Mail insisting that mail volumes are falling they are under the
> impression that we know have a lot of spare time in which to absorb other
> posties work.
>
> This is not the case,not only have we lost 60,000 staff in the business in the
> last few years (our CEO Adam Crozier has publicly admitted this) but we now
> have a large proportion of part-time workers which affects the way the mail
> pipeline works.
>
> Mail is being delayed regularly and in vast amounts around the country in the
> name of absorption,so managers can report that absorption has happened and the
> savings have been made,some posties have to leave part of their round in the
> office,they also are being forced to ‘cut off’ or stop their deliveries as they
> have run out of time.
>
> Royal Mail drivers have been taken off their packet routes to help absorption,
> hence packets are left undelivered for days.
>
> This is a mass abuse of the deal we signed in 07,and posties are being bullied
> and threatened with taken off pay if they either refuse to do this or happen to
> cut off.
>
>
> Later deliveries
>
> A few years back Royal Mail ceased the 2nd delivery and you now only get one,
> but the truth is Royal Mail did not stop the 2nd delivery they cancelled the
> 1st.
>
> We now start our rounds at the time that we started the 2nd delivery years ago
> and now, Royal Mail want even later start times. So while today, if you’re one
> of the lucky ones, you might meet your postman before you go to lunch, you will
> soon be meeting him just before dinner. We are aware that this causes big
> problems for businesses all over the UK more especially those that work from
> home.
>
> But that does not seem to matter to Royal Mail, later start times and later
> deliveries are all down to modernisation, or in other words, new sorting
> machines being brought in which, would you believe, take even longer to sort
> the mail.
>
> This will also affect our own work/life balance and there are childcare issues,
> and school run problems, already rising because of it.
>
> You may also be aware before we went to Single Daily Delivery, you could pick
> up any packets or signed for letters left in the morning around 2 hours or so
> later at your local office. That, as some of you may be aware has changed, some
> places you have to wait 24 hours, most 48 but there are some where you can’t
> get the packet for nearly 72hrs.
>
> That’s if your office is local instead of on some industrial estate somewhere,
> and of course if it does not close before lunch.
>
> This is Royal Mail modernisation.
>
>
> If you don’t like your job,then leave
>
> This is what we read about all the time from alleged customers on the Internet
> news stories comment sections, and, regrettably Royal Mail management.
>
> But who says that we don’t like our job. You will find that most posties love
> their job, but are finding it harder and harder to provide the service they
> want and their customers expect, not just because of the work levels, but more
> so the bullying and harassment by managers at all levels of the business.
>
> Why should we have to put up with the constant B&H and worsening of our terms
> and conditions, when all we want to do is get on with our job and provide a
> service to our customers.
>
> We will not be hounded out of a job we love in the name of profit, or be made
> to feel guilty because we decide to defend our current Conditions of service,
> instead of allowing them to be decimated because of the inherently unfair bonus
> culture of Royal Mail.
>
>
> National strike
>
> The 1st strike was in London N18 Edmonton against introduction of part-time
> duties by executive action on 7th March. Cowdenbeath DO was the first among
> many in Scotland to strike against Executive Action on 27th March. The whole of
> London took action throughout June, and over 500 other offices around the
> country either went out on strike or requested a strike ballot.
>
> Previously to all of this some Mail Centres around the country took strike
> action over their closures, and the lack of real consultation.
>
> London, since June have taken over 16 days of action.
>
> During all that time we have repeatedly asked Royal Mail to negotiate with our
> Union about, not only the problems that you have so far read about and will
> read about below, but more importantly the fact that previous agreements are
> either being ignored or abused.
>
> It has now come to the time where enough is enough and now we have,
> unfortunately, the national strikes.
>
>
> No more efficiency changes this year
>
> This is what Royal Mail have claimed but this is not the case,there are many
> cases on the site where Royal Mail are still pushing ahead with with their
> changes. Including later start times,full-time positions going to
> part-time,Pegasus 2 revisions (flawed computer program),night staff being moved
> to days,full-time staff to prep part-time staff walks,more hours to go from
> delivery offices…
>
>
> You the tax payer
>
> You are being mislead by the media and the Government regarding Billions of
> pounds of tax payers money being used to prop up Royal Mail and our
> pensions,this is not the case and a blatant lie by all.
>
> For many years the treasury have taken our profits from us for their own gain,
> add nearly 13 years when due to tax reasons Royal Mail did not pay into our
> pension scheme, and yes the treasury got that money as well, you the tax payer
> owes Royal Mail Billions of pounds.
>
> Any money recently received by Royal Mail from tax payers has been a loan and
> has to be paid back at commercial loan rates which means that the tax payer has
> once again benefited from us.
>
>
> Privatisation
>
> This is a simple one,the Government have said that they will take over our
> pension deficit only if we get part-privatised.
>
> The crux of this,is that you the tax payer will pay for our pensions,but a
> private investor will not have to so they will just get the profits. Our Union
> Leader remarked on this at the Labour Conference by saying the Government were
> Privatising the Profit and Nationalising the debt.
>
> The tax payer will have the debt, while the private investor will get the
> profit!
>
> We, us the humble posties do not need to tell you what happens after a company
> is privatised, you only need to look at your utility bills, train fares and
> your bank statements for that.
>
>
> Mail volumes
>
> We agree that mail volumes are down,but not as much as Royal Mail say, we
> accept the recession has had an effect, but again, not as much that Royal Mail
> has said.
>
> With 60,00 jobs gone, bigger rounds,over 1 Million new homes built in the last
> few years with more to come, a few letters less in our post bag, when you add
> the mass increase in packets due to e-commerce,there is no leeway in our duties
> like Royal Mail think.
>
> Add the fact that Royal Mail now count the mail differently with an un agreed
> and flawed process,then you have false traffic figures.
>
> What is in the boxes that they send the mail down to Delivery Offices, is very
> much under estimated and has been shown to be so by royalmailchat members
> counting individual boxes.
>
>
> Independent report on Royal Mail
>
> Last year the Government requested an independent report on Royal Mail (The
> Hooper report) this found many flaws with the way the business is being
> run,including lack of transparency by the business with its figures and the
> fact that Royal Mail management were not up to the job.
> We are not against modernisation
>
> WE ARE NOT AGAINST CHANGE – We signed up to the Pay and Mod Agreement. RM
> ignored Phase 4 till we started local strikes.
>
> WE ARE AWARE THERE WILL BE JOB LOSSES – 60,000 gone in recent years.
>
> WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR A PAY RISE PER SE – We had a pay freeze this year which
> was imposed against the spirit of the 2007 agreement.
>
> WE ARE NOT AGAINST MODERNISATION – But we haven’t seen it in deliveries unless
> you count longer routes with heavier bags.
>
> WE OFFERED A MORATORIUM ON STRIKES IF ROYAL MAIL DISCUSSED CHANGES – Royal Mail
> refused saying it was a stalling tactic but now they want it when un agreed
> systems are in place.
>
> WE ARE NOT AGAINST WORKING HARD – The Union suggested having independent
> organisations help both sides come up with a fair and balanced way of measuring
> workload and standard – Royal Mail refused.
>
> The 2007 agreement allowed local units to have innovative attendance patterns,
> and these were agreed in some units with full Royal Mail involvement. Yet
> without consulting the CWU (as per the agreement) they unilaterally enforced
> change on these working arrangements.
>
> The agreement also allowed a local earnings package,this has been taken away by
> Royal Mail.
>
>
> We are and we will strike against – Bullying and Harassment such as
>
> • Being suspended for pointing out H&S concerns.
>
> • Being sent home without pay when we can’t complete a delivery in the time
> allotted especially if managers are not willing to walk test us or check
> individual posties frames to see how busy they are.
>
> • Genuine overtime being struck off when you go over your contracted hours on
> a busy day.
>
> • Being sent home without pay when you can’t do the half hour flexibility
> when asked – even though personal reasons are meant to be taken into account as
> per the 07 agreement.
>
> • When you do the 1/2hr flexibility not being able to claw it back or be paid
> it on overtime as per the 07 agreement. Or being given it back in 5 minute
> chunks.
>
> • Changing our start and finish times on a weekly basis without negotiation.
>
> • Using a flawed computer program to work out rounds with un-agreed walk
> speeds.
>
> • No independent H&S review after accidents at work – Staff being blamed for
> accidents without thorough and external review of all pertinent matters by an
> independent body.
>
>
> Spanish practices do not exist
>
> The reality in modern delivery offices is that the posties slogs their guts out
> everyday under the gaze of managers ready to sack them for the slightest
> indiscretion.
>
> Many many part-timers are bullied by managers into doing unpaid over time day
> in day out.
>
> All OT has to be OK’ed by management and most posties are too intimidated to go
> see their manager to ask for it.
>
> A lot of our guys do hrs of OT per week for nothing.
> Give the Public a service – Yep that’s Royal Mails job and guess how they do
> that
>
> 1. Close 3,500 Post Offices.
>
> 2. Reduce the service at 1000s of others.
>
> 3. Allow the Government to withdraw some of the services you used to be able to
> get at POs.
>
> 4. Ceased Sunday Collections (now for anyone to get anything on Monday you need
> to send it before 1230 on Saturday.
>
> 5. Cancelled Bank Holiday Collections.
>
> 6. Cancelled 2nd Delivery
>
> 7. Made the 1st delivery later than the 2nd ever was.
>
> 8. Laid off 60,000 workers through various means.
>
> 9. Close delivery offices and amalgamate them into Super DOs on industrial
> estates miles from bus routes.
>
> 10. Bring in a complicated and expensive postage system. (Pricing in
> Proportion).
>
> 11. Increase handling fees for Import from £4 to £8.
>
> 12. Increase the surcharge of underpaid items to £1.
>
> 13. Increase stamp prices above inflation.
>
> 14. Agree a price with DSA competitors to use our network which means we
> subsidise them to the tune of 2p per item.
>
> 15. Take 5 years to spend half of the 1.2billion the government loaned them,
> but we are still yet to see the machines in use on a UK wide basis even though
> trials are going well according to Royal Mail.
>
> 16. Removing Mail Cycles and replacing them with cars and then claiming they
> are doing everything to reduce carbon emissions.
>
> 17. Half day closing for all Callers Offices and a delay of up to 72 hours
> before you can collect parcels/letters after getting a “Sorry you were out
> Card”
>
> All of the above is not exhaustive, but we are, thank you for taking the time to
> read it.
>
>
>
>
> Please send this on to all your contacts ta very much.

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Breakthrough?

I had an interesting moment. I was reading up on some theory, Habermas to be precise, and I had one of those moments where a lot of what I’d read previously slotted into place. Not just course work but pleasure reading. That moment where you get the point of not just what you are reading at that moment but the connections with all those other things – to be specific in this instance but not exclusive histories of social/ communal-religious puritan groups such as the Shakers and Weber/ modern thought – that you have read piecemeal in the past because they looked interesting. But of course unless you live in ‘I can be a purely objective scientist’ fantasy land, at least in the social sciences – Habermas again has something to say about that to do with the necessary use of the ordinary language being studied – you sometimes think how it relates to the evolution of your own thought, your beliefs (or you should – the ‘is’ and the ‘ought’). But that was not the breakthrough, it was a breakthrough, a minor one of sorts in my own theoretical preferences, but not the one this post is about.

As I was thinking to myself, ‘now I understand all those things I’ve read’, one of my voices spoke up: ‘You mean, we’ve read.’ At first I had my normal paranoiac/ telepathic moment – that’s someone telepathically linked to me letting me know they’ve read up on this too, stop fucking preaching (a weakness of mine) – but then I realised, no, for the first time, that I was aware of, or rather, or perhaps, the first time I was aware that, my voices were telling me they were a part of me.

Then I looked out of the window and a guy was walking past giving me the evils – did he know I was being so foolish? But no, he was the same guy who had been delivering leaflets while I was walking my son to sleep earlier, he was delivering pizza menus. He put one through my front door. I don’t eat pizza.

[edit] Rereading this I got a voice saying ‘Oh jeez, we’re not’  but was it telling me it was separate or was it the voice’s own terrified realisation that they are a part of me?

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The Therapeutic Alliance

One of the most inspiring presentations for me at the Intervoice First World Hearing Voices Congress was that given by Professor Richard Bentall. His paper entitled ‘Why Relationships Matter: The Crucial Role of the Therapeutic Alliance in Helping People with Psychosis’ presented the results of research he had done into the therapeutic alliance and the results they had come up with.

The abstract to the paper talks of the history of therapy post-Second World War, immediately after the war the only therapy available was psychonalysis, considered to be costly and of limited efficacy, however during the post-war years there was a period of intense therapeutic innovation following two separate traditions: a technical tradition (behaviour modification, associated in the UK with Hans Eysenck and in the US with B F Skinner) which placed its faith in psychological theory, and an interpersonal tradition (associated with Carl Rogers) which emphasised the importance of therapeutic relationships. Prof. Bentall suggests that it is widely assumed that the technical approach triumphed, hence the popularity of CBT, it is cheap and gets results. But in this paper he asks whether such faith is justified, not that CBT treatments aren’t effective, but that research suggests that non-CBT therapies are too and that “Although further technical treatments may lead to improvements in psychological treatments for psychosis we neglect the interpersonal aspects of treatment at our peril”.

Sarting his paper Prof. Bentall gave a partial history of therapeutic treatments, arguing that the history is split between technique an empathy. He mentioned that clinical psychology was developed after the war in the hope that it would address the mountain of need in the asylums, in the US this was through the establishment of a PhD programme at the Boulder Conference of 1948, whilst in the same year clinical psychology training started in the UK with a 13 month training course at the Institute of Psychiatry.

Psychology was to be split between the technical approach pioneered by Skinner and Eysenck and the interpersonal approach of Carl Rogers. The early technical approach is exemplified by studies such ‘Extinction of psychotic speech in a patient, Helen, at the Saskatchewan Hospital in Canada’ (from Ayllon & Michael, 1959. The psychiatric nurse as a behavioral engineer. Journal of the Experimental Analysis of Behavior, 2, 323-334). Studies such as these showed that patients minds could be changed by behavioural modification. The high water mark came with the success of the token economy a reward system  of systematic reinforcement that returned speech to previously mute patients. Although now considered unethical or too simplistic this was no mean feat and showed that behaviour modification could be very successful (‘The Token Economy’, Ayllon & Azrin, 1968)

Some psychologists, such as Carl Rogers, however, grew dissatisfied with the purely technical approach. Rogers rejected therapies such as psychoanalysis which he saw as too directive, he believed that patients had the capacity to heal themselves given the right circumstances and he believed that empathetic understanding, congruence and unconditional positive regard were the necessary and sufficient conditions for successful therapy. Rogers argued that research was necessary to prove his theories, both process research (what happened in the therapeutic session) and outcome research (the efficacy of the therapies). Thus he carried out one of the first RCTs of therapy with psychotic patients. The result was failure, both in terms of implementation of the project and the results (Rogers, Gendin,
Keisler & Traux, 1967). Although this may have been partly due to internal disagreements within the research group, it looked like the triumph of the behaviourists.

But others have rexamined these findings since, in 1977 a large scale controlled trial of the token economy took place. The token economy was compared to milieu therapy and TAU (treatment as usual). The discharge rates were 97%, 75% and 45% respectively (Paul & Lenz. 1977).This showed the efficacy of the token economy but it also showed that therapy was not without its merits. Other large scale tests have shown similar results (Dickerson et. al, 2005). Previously in 1966, Traux who had worked with but also disagreed with Rogers, showed that Rogers had unconsciously been using social reinforcement in his therapy. At the same time as the first large scale study of the token economy Hall, Baker et. al (1977) showed that social reinforcement – not the tokens themselves – was the successful ingredient in a token economy. The integration into an interpersonal, social community was a deciding factor. Empathic, genuine relationships are the more powerful reinforcers.

From as far back as 1936, Rosenzweig had suggested the Dodo conjecture (from Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland – ” All have won, all must have prizes”) that all therapies are equally efficacious. Again in 1977 Smith and Glass undertook a meta-analysis of psychotherapy outcomes that supported this conjecture, as have subsequent studies (Wampold, 2001). The effect size of psychotherapy versus treament as usual was .8, whilst the effect size between different psychotherpies was considered not significant.

So although the technical approach’s efficacy could not be denied, empathic genuine relationships definitely had an effect on the successful treatment of psychosis. Rogers may have had a point. It is therefore not unsurprising that CBT (Cognitive Behavioural Therapy) would ascend as a treatment. Bentall then turns to this treatment.

Prof. Bentall cites a series of papers cataloguing the successes of CBT in the treatment of psychosis; for psychotic patients who have not responded adequately to anti-psychotic medication (Cather et. al, 2004; Durham et al. 2003; Tarrier et al., Kuipers et al. 1998; Sensky et al. 2000; Turkington et al. 2003; Valmaggia et al. 2005); for remitted patients at risk of relapse (Bach & Hayes, 2002; Gaudiano et al, 2006; Gumley et al. 2003); acutely ill patients (Drury et al, 1999; Startup et al. 2004; Tarrier et al. 2004); and people thought to be at ultra high risk of an acute psychotic episode (Morrison et al. 2004). Bearing in mind the results of these studies, Bentall became involved in SoCRATES (the study of cognitive realignment therapy in early schizophrenia).

The SoCRATES study involved giving patients on 1st or 2nd admission for schizophrenia a randomised choice of CBT, counselling or routine care. They were given at 6 weekly assessments then followed up at 9 and 18 months. The results of the 18 month follow up showed a that both counselling and CBT had an effect over routine care however there was a highly significant centre affect between the three locations used in the study, Liverpool, Manchester and Nottingham. Some locations were significantly more effective than others. At the time this was not explicable.

There were other meta-analyses that suggested that CBT was superior to TAU in treatment of positive symptoms but had no effect on relapse (Pilling et al. 2002); that CBT was superior to TAU in the treatment of positive symptoms but there were lower effect sizes in larger trials (Tarrier & Wykes, 2004). In 2008, Wykes et al undertook a meta-analysis of 33 studies and confirmed the superiority of CBT over TAU for positive symptoms (33 studies, ES = .40), with some effect on negative symptoms, mood and functioning (13-23 studies, ES = 0.35 – 0.45). The most rigorous blinded studies showed ES = .22 for positive symptoms. So the evidence of the efficacy of CBT looked strong. But Prof. Bentall said there were still questions begging.

So he returned to the dod bird conjecture. Other papers have also shown the benefits of non-specific therapy. A 2000 paper by Sensky et al. suggested that befriending and CBT had similar effects during the treatment phase, only CBT was still more effective a year later. Papers in 1999 and 2000 by Tarrier et al. reported that CBT was superior to supportive counselling at a years follow up but there was no difference at 2 years, both were superior to TAU. Another paper by Tarrier from 2004 found CBT was superior to TAU but not supportive counselling.

Bentall suggested looking at non-specific factors that may account for this the effects of therapy. He pointed out two: the expectation of a postive outcome by the patient (Greenberg et al. 2006); and the therapeutic alliance – the affectional bond between the patient and therapist and their shared willingness to work towards mutually agreed goals (Horvath & Symonds, 1991; Martin et al. 2000).

Bentall was involved in a study with Dunn and Morrison (2006) looking at the therapeutic alliance, taking 29 patients receiving CBT for psychosis and looked at homework compliance. They found a significant relationship between the therapeutic alliance and homework compliance. Bentall returned to the Socrates study, he had asked for therapeutic alliance data to be taken at session 4 and session 10. There was a significant concurrence between therapists and patients as to the perception of the therapeutic relationship. But Bentall had no idea what the statistics meant. He turned to a colleague Day a specialist in statistics; conventional methods of analysing the therapeutic alliance are compromised by the possibility that the observed relationship between the alliance and outcome is inflated by unknown confounders.They developed a novel structural mean models (SMM) method of analysis method that eliminates this risk (Dunn & Bentall, 2007; Bentall et al. in press). The SMM analysis showed that the large centre effects in SoCRATES, the differences in outcome between Liverpool, Manchester and Nottingham, are entirely accounted for by the therapeutic alliance.

The therapeutic alliance has been shown to affect other outcomes in psychosis. Bentall argued that good collaborative relationships with patients are a universal good. However in conclusion Bentall pointed out the disparity in research. Research on psychological treatments for psychosis are at an early stage, in recent years there have been just 23 trials. In comparison between 2001-2003 there were 397 drug trials published in the five leading psychiatric journals. Bentall stated he remained positive about psychological interventions such as CBT and Commitment therapy but that the warm supportive relationships are therapeutic in themselves. Again he decalared them a universal good.

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Open Letter To Oprah Winfrey in response to the programme about “the 7 year old schizophrenic”

I am reprinting here an Open Letter by the Intervoice organisation in response to a programme on the Oprah Winfrey show on October 6, 2009 about a young child who hears voices.

The programme and corresponding article can be viewed here

The Intervoice website can be viewed here

Here is the Open Letter

INTERVOICE
The International Network for Training, Education and Research into Hearing Voices
admin@intervoiceonline.org Tel: + 34 96 526 3097
19th October 2009
Open letter to Oprah Winfrey in response to the programme about “The 7-Year-Old Schizophrenic”
Introduction:
This letter has been written in response to the Oprah Winfrey programme about Jani, “The 7-Year-Old Schizophrenic” broadcast on the 6th November 2009. We want to tell you about an alternative and more empowering approach to the
experience of hearing voices that we believe will be of interest to your viewers. 85 members of the mental health community around the world, including voice hearers, relatives, citizens, academics and educators, therapists, nurses
and researchers have been moved to sign this letter. Such is the level of concern we feel about the circumstances that Jani finds herself in.
Dear Oprah
We are writing this letter in response to your programme about “The 7-Year-Old Schizophrenic”. This concerned Jani, a child who hears voices, and was broadcast on the 6th October 2009. We do so in the hope we can provide a more hopeful and positive alternative to the generally pessimistic picture offered by the members of the mental health community featured in the programme, and in the accompanying article on your website.
What upset us most and moved us to write the letter, is that, as a result of the programme, parents of children who have similar experiences to Jani will be left with the impression that they are powerless and will not be able to do anything
constructive to help their children to come to terms with their experience of hearing voices. For it is simply not true that nothing can be done.
We say this because we have been researching and working with adults and children like Jani and their parents for the last twenty years, and in doing so have reached very different conclusions from the ones reported on your programme.
We write this letter primarily for parents and carer givers, in the hope that it will enable them to develop a new and more empowering way of thinking about their children’s experiences, and that it will help them to find ways to help those
children with their emotional development and with recovering from being overwhelmed by hearing voices. Unfortunately, there is very little practical advice available about children who hear voices which addresses the needs of
parents or other members of the family. This is a shame because they are the most important form of support to such children. So, we want you to know that there are some simple commonsense things that parents can do to help children
who hear voices – even children in seemingly hopeless situations, like Jani.
We would like to make the following observations: One of our founding members, Dr. Sandra Escher from the Netherlands, is an expert on the issue of children who hear voices. She has spent the last fifteen years talking to children who hear voices, and to their parents and carer givers. To date, on this issue, Sandra has carried out the most detailed and thorough research in the world. As a result of her work
she offers a new perspective on what troubling voices may represent, and how parents can help a child cope if he or she hears voices.
First of all, from the research carried out into the experience of adults and children who hear voices it has become apparent that:
• To hear voices in itself is a normal experience. Of course it is unusual, but at some time or another, many people hear a voice when nobody else is actually present.
• However, it is possible for people to become ill as a result of hearing voices when they cannot cope with them.
• For most children (60%) the voices disappear over time as the child develops and as they learn to cope with life’s problems, and with the emotions and feelings involved with those problems, which led to the voices starting in the first place.
Several large-scale population (epidemiological) studies have shown that about 4 % of the population hear voices. Of this 4%, about 30% seek assistance from mental health services. Amongst children, however, even more hear voices
(8%), and as with adults, about 30% are referred to the mental health services.
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This means that there are apparently many more people who hear voices who do not require the support of mental health services than those who do. This is because the majority can cope with their voices and function well in everyday
life. Unfortunately, most of the information that we have about the experience of hearing voices comes exclusively from research with patients: people who obviously cannot cope with the voices and needed help. These are people who feel
that the voices made them feel powerless and who were overwhelmed by them. This is the case for research about adults and children who are hearing voices.
However, in our research we found that a common theme in both groups (adults and children) is the high percentage of traumatic experiences that have been the trigger for hearing voices. In adults, around 75% began to hear voices in
relationship to a trauma or situation that made them feel powerless. Examples of the kinds of traumas that trigger voices include the death of a loved one, divorce, losing a job, failing an exam, but also longer lasting situations like being
physically, emotionally or sexually abused.
The percentage of traumatic experience found as the trigger to hearing voices was even higher amongst children. It stood at 85%, with some traumas specifically related to childhood. These traumas might include being bullied by peers
or teachers, or being unable to perform at a certain level at school. Another commonly reported traumatic incident related to hearing voices was being admitted to a hospital for a long time due to a physical illness.
Generally, our research indicates that hearing voices is a reaction to a situation or a problem the child or young person cannot cope with. Voices act as messengers and it may well be a mistake to try to kill the messenger – for instance
through administering medication.
Another striking finding is that what the voices say often indicates the problem which troubles the child, but in an elliptical manner. Take just one example: The voices told an 8-year-old boy to blind himself. This frightened his mother.
But when we discussed whether there was something in the life of the boy he could not face, she understood the voices’ message. The boy could not cope with his parents’ problematic marriage. He did not want to see it.
In Jani’s case, has anyone tried to establish why the rat is called “Wednesday”, why the girl is called “24 Hours”, and why is the cat called “400″? What do these mean for her? Are there reasons behind this? Furthermore, why did she want people to call her “Blue-Eyed Tree Frog” and “Jani Firefly”. Is this something she associated with safety, and if so why?
Our research also revealed that when full attention was given to the problems facing the child, he or she was able to establish a more constructive relationship with the voices. As a result children became less afraid of their voices. When
a child is able to consider the problems that are at the root of his or her distress, and with the emotions and feelings involved, the child is no longer preoccupied with the voices.
Recently, Sandra conducted a three-year follow up study on eighty children who heard voices, aged between 8 and 19. Half of this group received mental health care because of their voices. However, the other half were not given any special care at all. She interviewed the children four times, at yearly intervals. By the end of the research period 60% of the children reported that the voices had disappeared.
Of course figures and statistics like this do not directly relate to Jani. But the overall message is that the chance that the voices might disappear are quite high.
We saw that when children have problems which bring on the experience of hearing voices, their ability to learn to cope with their voices is inhibited. However, if the problems were dealt with or the child’s situation changed – for example, because of changing schools – the voices disappeared.
It is important that we appreciate that the desire to make the voices disappear is a goal of the mental health care services and not necessarily that of the children themselves. There are some children who did not want to lose their voices. This is OK, for the most important thing is that the voices no longer remain at the centre of their attention. This is because, as the relationship with the voices change and became more positive, instead of hindering the child the voices start to take on an advisory role. If children find within themselves the resources to cope with their voices, and the emotions involved with hearing them, then they can begin to lead happier and more balanced lives. The most important element in the process of positively changing a child’s relationship with his or her voice is support from the family. Unfortunately, our research has shown that being in the mental health care system had no positive effect on the voices. However, we did find that what had a positive influence on how the child coped with hearing voices was being referred to a psychotherapist who accepted the reality of the voices and was prepared to discuss their meaning with the child.
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We also saw that ‘normalising’ the experience can help parents to deal with the voices. Try not to think of it as a terrible disaster but rather as a signal for something that troubles your child and which can be resolved. On the other hand, if parents cannot accept that hearing voices is fairly normal, but believe only that it is a symptom of an illness, and are afraid of them, then the child naturally picks up this feeling. Imagine for a moment if you were the child and were afraid of the voices, and when you looked for support from your parents you found that they were even more afraid of the voices than you. Obviously, this would put you under great pressure and probably mean that you would become reluctant to talk about your experiences at all. There is a second problem. If a person is afraid of the voices then he or she can become obsessed simply by the fear of them. If one is distressed and anxious one cannot listen very well to the story a child tells about his or her experiences. This means that a sympathetic other may fail to pick up on the related emotions and problems that the voices represent. In our experience, what helps children the most is a systematic approach to understanding the voices. So, in order to help we have developed an interview to help map the experience. This can be used as a way to understand the stress the child is under, and then to work together to find solutions for the problems raised by the experience of hearing voices.
We would like to offer this 10-point guide for parents, indicating what they can do if their child tells them that he or she hears voices:
1. Try not to over react. Although it is understandable that you will be worried, work hard not to communicate your anxiety to your child.
2. Accept the reality of the voice experience for your child: ask about the voices, how long the child has been hearing them, who or what they are, do they have names, what they say, etc.
3. Let your child know that lots of children hear voices and that usually they go away after a while.
4. Even if the voices do not disappear your child might learn to live in harmony with his or her voices
5. It is important to break down your child’s sense of isolation and difference from other children. Your child is special – unusual perhaps, but really not abnormal.
6. Find out if your child has any difficulties or problems that he or she finds very hard to cope with, and work on trying to fix those problems. Think back to when the voices first started. When did the voices arise for the first time? What was happening to your child when the voices first appeared? Was there anything unusual or stressful that might have occurred?
7. If you think you need outside help, find a therapist who is prepared to accept your child’s experience and work systematically with him or her to understand and cope better with the voices.
8. Be ready to listen to your child if he or she wants to talk about the voices. Use drawing, painting, acting and other creative ways to help the child to describe what is happening in his or her life.
9. Get on with your lives and try not to let the experience of hearing voices become the centre of your child’s life or your own.
10. Most children who live well with their voices have supportive families around them who accept the experience as part of who their child is. You can do this too!

In conclusion we would like to stress that, in our view, labelling a seven-year-old child as schizophrenic and subjecting her to powerful psychotropic medication and periodic hospitalisation is unlikely to help resolve her problems with voices.
Indeed, the opposite is most probable: Jani will simply become more powerless when it comes to finding ways to cope with her voices.
Because your well respected, award winning show reaches out to so many people, we are concerned that there will be many viewers who will be left with the impression that the kind of treatment Jani receives is the only one available. If
this is the case then there will be children who will be subjected to an unnecessary lifetime in psychiatric care because their families believe there are no alternatives. It is very important to recognise that hearing voices, in itself, is not a sign
of psychopathology – and – voice hearers who are patients can be helped to recover from their problems by being supported in developing their own ways of coping with their emotions. We hope you will give consideration to the possibility of making a future programme showing the other side of the story,
one of hope, optimism and with a focus on recovery. Perhaps you could make a programme about a child with similar voice experiences to Jani, who has been helped to come to terms with her or his voices and to discuss with the child,
parents and therapists how this was acheived? If there is anyway we could help make this happen, please contact us.
We look forward to hearing from you on the issues raised in our letter.
Yours sincerely,
Paul Baker
INTERVOICE coordinator
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Signed by:
85 people from 14 countries (listed in order of time recieved)
Dr. Sandra Escher – Board member of INTERVOICE, The Netherlands
Professor Marius Romme, psychiatrist, MD, PhD, President of INTERVOICE, The Netherlands
Dirk Corstens, Social psychiatrist and psychotherapist, Chair of INTERVOICE, The Netherlands
Paul Baker, coordinator of INTERVOICE, Spain
Jacqui Dillon, consultant trainer and voice hearer, chair of Hearing Voices Network England, board member of INTERVOICE, UK
Ron Coleman, consultant trainer and voice hearer, board member of INTERVOICE, UK
Hywel Davies, chair of Hearing Voices Network Cymru (Wales), honorary board member of INTERVOICE; UK
Amanda R. E. Aller Lowe, MS, LPC, LCPC, QMRP – Agency Partner, Communities In Schools & Area Representative, The Center for Cultural Interchange, Aurora, Illinois, INTERVOICE supporter, USA
Adrienne Giacon, Secretary and Hearing Voices Network Support group facilitator Hearing Voices Network Aotearoa, INTERVOICE member, New Zealand
Dr John Read, Associate Professor, Psychology Department, The University of Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand
Ann-Louise S. Silver, MD, founder and past president,International Society for the Psychological Treatments of Schizophrenia and Other Psychoses (www.isps-us.org), ISPS-US, USA
Matthew Morrissey, MA, MFT, Board Member, MindFreedom International, Northern California Coordiator, ISPS-US, San Franciso, USA
Irene van de Giessen, former voice hearer and foster-daughter of Willem van Staalen and Willem van Staalen, voice integrating foster-father of Irene, The Netherlands
Olga Runciman, consultant trainer and voice hearer (BSc psychiatric nurse and graduate student in psychology), INTERVOICE member, Denmark
Professor Wilma Boevink, Chair of Stichting Weerklank (Netherlands Hearing Voices Network), Professor of Recovery, Hanze University; Trimbos-Institute (the Dutch Institute of Mental Health and Addiction), Netherlands
Marian B. Goldstein, voicehearer, (fully recovered thanks to trauma-focussed therapy, the opportunity to make sense of the voices) INTERVOICE supporter, Denmark
Professor Dr J. van Os, Department of Psychiatry and Neuropsychology, Maastricht University Medical Centre, Maastricht, INTERVOICE supporter, Netherlands
Virginia Pulker, Mental health Occupational Therapist with young people with psychosis, recovery promoter, HVN Australia, Northern Ireland and England. INTERVOICE supporter, UK/Australia
Professor Richard Bentall, PhD, Chair Clinical Psychology, University of Bangor, INTERVOICE supporter, Wales, UK
Alessandra Santoni, professional working in a Mental Health Service of Milan, voice hearer and facilitator of a hearing voices group, INTERVOICE supporter,Italy
Geraldo Peixoto and Dulce Edie Pedro dos Santos, São Vicente – Est. São Paulo – INTERVOICE supporter, Brasil
Joanna & Andrzej Skulski, INTERVOICE supporters, Polska
Darby Penney, INTERVOICE supporter and President, The Community Consortium, Inc., Albany, NY, USA
Jacqueline Hayes, researcher at Manchester University about hearing voices in ‘non-patients’ and therapist, UK
Phil Virden, MA, MA, Executive Editor, Asylum Magazine, UK
Matthew Morris, Mental Health Locality Manager, East Suffolk Outreach Team, Suffolk Mental Health Partnerships NHS Trust, INTERVOICE supporter, UK
Ros Thomas, Young Peoples Worker, Gateway Community Heath, Wodonga Victoria, INTERVOICE supporter, Australia
Dr. Rufus May Dclin/ Consultant Clinical Psychologist, INTERVOICE supporter, UK
Dr. Simon Jones, INTERVOICE supporter, UK
Louis Tinnin, M.D. Psychiatrist, Morgantown, West Virginia, USA
Linda Gantt, PhD, Intensive Trauma Therapy, Inc., USA
Burton Norman Seitler, Ph.D., New Jersey Institute for training in Psychoanalysis and Psychotherapy, Child and Adolescence Psychotherapy Studies
Ron Bassman, PhD., Founding member of International Network Towards Alternatives for Recovery (INTAR), Past president of The National Association for Rights Protection and Advocacy, USA
Michael O’Loughlin, Adelphi University, NY, USA
Dorothy Scotten, Ph.D., LCSW, USA
Marilyn Charles, Ph.D., The Austen Riggs Center, USA
Bex Shaw, Psychotherapist, London, UK
Ira Steinman, MD, author of “TREATING the ‘UNTREATABLE’ : Healing in the Realms of Madness”, USA
Mike Lawson, Ex Vice Chair National MIND UK 1986-1992, INTERVOICE supporter, UK
Dr. Dan L. Edmunds, Ed.D., B.C.S.A., International Center for Humane Psychiatry, USA
Ron Unger LCSW, therapist, USA
Daniel B Fisher (Boston, MA): Person who recovered from what is called schizophrenia, Executive Director National Empowerment Center; National Coalition of Mental Health Consumer/survivor Org., member of Interrelate an
international coalition of national consumer/user groups, community psychiatrist, Cambridge, Mass., USA
Mary Madrigal, USA
Paul Hammersley, University of Manchester, INTERVOICE supporter, UK
Phil Benjamin, mental health nurse and voices consultant, Australia
Eleanor Longden, Bradford Early Intervention in Psychosis Sevice, England, UK
Karen Taylor RMN, director Working to Recovery, Scotland, UK
Bill George, MA, PGCE, Member of the Anoiksis Think Tank, Netherlands
Dr Andrew Moskowitz, Senior Lecturer in Mental Health, University of Aberdeen, Scotland, UK
John Exell, BA(Hons), Dip Arch, voice-hearer, sculptor, artist, writer, poet, UK.
Tineke Nabben, a voice hearer who has learned to cope with her voices and student, learning to help other children and parents to cope with their voices. Germany
Marcello Macario, psychiatrist, Community Mental Health Centre of Carcare, Italy, INTERVOICE supporter, Italy
Ian Parker, Professor of Psychology, co-director of the Discourse Unit, Manchester Metropolitan University, England, UK
David Harper, PhD, Reader in Clinical Psychology, School of Psychology, University of East London, England, UK
Wakio Sato:, representative of the Hearing Voices Network – Japan. President of the Japanese Association of Clinical Psychology. The representative of an NPO named “Linden” for community mental health in Konko town, Okayama prefecture, Japan
Suzette van IJssel, Ph.D., spiritual counsel and voice hearer, Utrecht, The Netherlands
Jeannette Woolthuis, psycho-social therapist working with children hearing voices and former voice hearer, The Netherlands
Dr. Louise Trygstad, Professor Emerita, University of San Francisco School of Nursing, USA
Erik Olsen, Board member ENUSP European Network of Users (x)-users and Survivors of Psychiatry and Executive Committee in European Dsability Forum (EDF)
Astrid Zoetbrood, recovered from psychosis and voices, the Netherlands
Christine Brown, RMN, Hearing Voices Network Scotland, INTERVOICE supporter, UK
Rachel Waddingham,- Manager of the London Hearing Voices Project (inc. Voice Collective: Young People’s Hearing Voices Project), trainer and voice-hearer, UK
Joel Waddingham, Husband and supporter of someone who hears voices, sees visions and has other unusual experiences, UK
Professor Robin Buccheri, RN, MHNP, DNSc, University of San Francisco, CA, USA
Jørn Eriksen. Board member of INTERVOICE, the Danish Hearing Voices Network and The International Mental Health Collaboration Network, Denmark
Douglas Holmes, voice hearer working in a Mental Health Service in Darlinghurst, Sydney, and facilitator of a hearing voices group, INTERVOICE supporter, Australia
Matthew Winter, Student Mental Health Nurse and INTERVOICE supporter
Anneli Westling, Relative of a voice hearer from Stockholm, Sweden
Lia Govers, recovered voice hearer, Italy
Molly Martyn, MA in Clinical Mental Health, Hearing Voices Network of Denver, USA
Tsuyoshi Matsuo, MD, INTERVOICE supporter, Japan
Janet M. Patterson RN, BSN, USA
Odette Nightsky, Sensitive Services International, Australia
Barbara Belton, M.S., M.S. trauma survivor who has recovered and former behavioral health professional, USA
Luigi Colaianni, PhD sociologist, researcher, Community Mental Health Centre, Milano, Italy
Teresa Keedwell, Voice Hearer Support Group, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Maria Haarmans, MA, Canadian Representative INTERVOICE, Canada
Ami Rohnitz, Voice hearer, Sweden
Sharon Jones, University of York, INTERVOICE Supporter, England, UK
Gail A. Hornstein, PhD, Professor of Psychology, Mount Holyoke College, USA
Siri Blesvik, INTERVOICE supporter, Norway
Lynn Seaton, mental health nurse, Scottish Hearing Voices Network and INTERVOICE supporter, UK
Rozi Pattison, Clinical Psychologist, CAMHS, Kapiti Health Centre, PARAPARAUMU, New Zealand
Suzanne Engelen, Experience Focussed Counselling Institute (efc) and member of INTERVOICE. She is an expert by experience and also works for Weerklank (Dutch Hearing Voices Network) and the TREE project, The Netherlands
Further information:
INTERVOICE – The international community for hearing voices
Working across the world to spread positive and hopeful messages about the experience of hearing voices. We have found there are many people who hear voices, yet are not troubled by them or have found their own ways of
coping with them outside of psychiatric care. This is very significant as it shows you can hear voices and remain healthy. However, there are also significant numbers of voice hearers who are overwhelmed by the negative and disempowering aspects of the experience. Many are diagnosed as having a serious mental health problem such as schizophrenia. The experience of hearing voices prevents some people from living a fulfilled life in society (especially those in
psychiatric and social care) and can lead to having a very poor quality of life. We seek to enable voice hearers troubled by their experience to change their relationship and attitude to their voices and to take up their lives again. We also
want to ensure that our innovatory approach is better known by professionals, family members and friends.
We have spent the last 20 years trying to better understand why some people can cope with the experience and others can’t. We have discovered that those people who are not able to cope with their voices, on the whole have not been
able to cope with the traumatic events that lay at the roots of their voice hearing experience. Many voices can be unthreatening and even positive. “It’s wrong to turn this into a shameful problem that people either feel they have to deny or to take medication to suppress.” – Professor Marius Romme
Visit our website at www.intervoiceonline.org for more information about the aims, objectives and worldwide reach of
INTERVOICE.
See articles about our work with children here:
Silencing unwelcome voices in children, The Guardian, 22/11/2001
A psychosocial therapist in Holland has adapted an innovative approach to voice hearing to help very young children
dispel the imaginary friends that become realistic foes http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2001/nov/22/mentalhealth/print
‘She was like a personal coach’: An account of hearing voices as a child, The Guardian, 16/11/2001
‘They would set her impossible tasks” The Guardian, 16/11/2001
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2001/nov/16/mentalhealth1/print
Most children hearing voices stop within three years, Royal College of Psychiatry, 03/09/2002
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/full/181/43/s10
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David Keenan and Panel @ Colour Out Of Space 2007

This is an unedited recording I made of a panel discussing noise, improvisation and other experimental musics hosted by David Keenan at the Colour Out Of Space festival in 2007.

At somepoint I shall edit this properly and re-post, but for now here it is raw via podomatic

Dave Keenan – COOS

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What Do Voice Hearers Need To Recover

Professor Marius Romme’s presentation at the Intervoice conference was an overview of his study of the recovery of 50 voice hearers. In his abstract  Marius suggests that, especially those who had had long term psychiatric treatment with no positive treatment, what voice hearers needed for recovery was exactly the opposite of what they tended to get from the disease concept in mental health. He suggested we had been trained not to listen generally and not to the content of voice hearers voices in particular.

Marius Romme has over the years developed a method of analysing the relationship between the characteristics of the voices and what has socially and emotionally happened with the voice hearer – what he calls ‘the construct’.

He suggests that it is hard to believe that voices really make sense and therefore it is hard to listen. Professionals now require intensive training to listen again.

Controversially he suggests that voice hearers get a diagnostic label that explains nothing about what they experience. They are told there is no hope and no cure. They are asked to be passive victims of their illness. They are told to take medications that blunt their emotions in such a way that they can’t learn to cope with them. They are told that the often traumatic social and emotional experiences they have had have nothing to do with their illness. They are not asked what happened in their lives. (Personal note: I was asked once when I was hospitalised to aid diagnosis then never again). The relationship with their emotions is denied. They are not listened to.

Marius Romme argues that the purpose and result of recovering from the distress associated with voices is not to get rid of the voices but to change the relationship with them as well as to deal with the problems that lie at their root. He suggests that the stories contained in the study show the need and necessity for emancipation. Too many professionals and members of the public see voice hearing as abnormal. He argues that just as other civil rights campaigners have organised and demanded acceptance and rights so do voice hearers. But acceptance has to start with accepting oneself and what became apparent from the study was that being supported in this self-acceptance is important.

In his presentation, Professor Romme used examples from this study, voice hearers talked of acceptance and ownership of the voices. How they stopped looking for a cause outside themselves, explored the relationship they had with the voices and what life events might have triggered them. Others talked of how their voices became stimuli for dealing with life events and the conflicts contained within them. How in doing these things the power relationship with the voices changed.

Others talked of how they connected with the emotions with the trauma’s they had experienced to better cope with and understand their voices. One voice hearer’s story told of how they had tried to talk of the abuse they had suffered but had been told they had a disease that, contradictorily, they would never recover from but for which they had to take medication. No-one had asked her what she thought even though she felt that up to this point she had coped admirably. What she experienced was not seen as a natural and human response to things that had happened to her in her life.

Other voice hearer’s stories talked of the connection between the voices, one recognising it as the perpertrator, and the abuse and bullying they had experienced in life.

But there was a message of hope, the recovery stories of the voice hearer’s was how they used these abusive voices in a positive way, helping them to improve their lives in a way they found in need of improving, or how they bounced off them to do the things they needed to improve their self-confidence.

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